Parking Fine

BART parking is for patrons only. The machines are inside the paid area of the stations to help make sure that the only people that can use them are actually riding the trains. Please explain how, in your proposal, the system would make sure people paying for parking were actually going to ride the train.

In addition, please explain how machines would be economically deployed at stations that have large parking lots, like Dublin/Pleasanton or Millbrae, among others. The machines supposedly cost $60k a year to run when you factor in cost to purchase, maintenance and such.

The idea itself isn't half bad, but think out some of the details. Also, in terms of your ticket, you may want to try contesting it and see what happens.

As for the fine, I think it's low. You should try getting a parking ticket in San Francisco.

No. The big problem here is that many people, INCLUDING YOURSELF, refuse to take responsibility for your own actions and decisions. In order to make yourself feel better, you feel the need to place the blame on someone or something else because you have too much pride to suck it in and admit that you messed up.

You already admitted that you forgot your stall number and *YOU* decided to take the chance and get on your train anyway. This isn't the fault of BART management. Maybe you should allow yourself more time in the morning so you're not running a marathon to catch the train.

To counter your other suggestion, in reference to placing the parking machines outside the station, this is not done for a very specific reason that helps benefit YOU. BART parking lots are for BART patrons only. This allows the maximmum amount of stalls for strict use among BART passengers. The parking units are placed in the "paid" areas of the station because it makes it more difficult for "non-patron parkers" to pay for their stall.

P.S. If you get caught painting over numbers in the BART parking lots and the cost of the damage exceeds $400, you can expect to pay up to $10,000 in fines and spend time in the state prison. I imagine that $25 parking ticket is looking a little less threatening.

I think I'll go to your house and paint a big L on your car. That way, when you park you will see the L and think, "hey loser, don't forget your stall number."

I like your plan, but I think mine uses less paint.

I used to take Bart (about a year ago before they charged for parking) and there was a time when I forgot my stall number. I tried validating with a number that I guessed- I was only one number off! I still got a ticket, and had to pay $25.00. Seems like paying the $1.00 might not matter, but I could be wrong because things are different now.

LOVE YOUR IDEA ABOUT THE GATE ENTRANCE, LIKE THE AIRPORT.. OR A REAL PERSON IN THE DAY. IF BART IS SO WORRIED ABOUT WHO'S PARKING IN THEIR PARKING LOTS..

i think you just answered the question without realizing it: "This could be done with maybe 2-3 machines at the entrances of the lot rather than have 5-10 machines in the station." time and safety. i can't speak for ALL stations, but the ones i frequent (walnut creek, lafayette) have parking lot entrances that are directly off a main road. assuming that people can insert a ticket into a machine as quickly from their car seat at they can while standing in the paid area (which they likely cannot), it will take three to five times as long for everyone to pay for parking as there are only "2-3 machines at the entrances of the lot rather than have 5-10 machines in the station." this is not only a time issue, but a safety issue. at walnut creek, you make a left off the freeway and then an immediate right into the parking lot. if you had to pay before entering, then traffic would back up onto the freeway and people would die.

what about people that don't have tickets? some people buy tickets at the station, but with your method, you can't park unless you already have a ticket...

i can't believe i just responded to a three year old post.

I could forget my parking stall number tons of times and still pay less than you. And you are calling me lazy? lol! You get the reward for funniest post on this thread.

Ha. $4.00 is not nearly enough.
$25.00 is on the low side of reasonable.

I'd be willing to bet that you'll be paying enough attention to doing it right next time.

Sometimes you just have to get the offenders attention- with a mule, a 2x4 between the eyes is sometimes necessary; with an automobile driver, a hit to the wallet is required.
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How exactly is BART supposed to know that you simply forgot your number? For all they know, you are just ditching your fee. I love how you think the whole world knows what's going in your head! Keep up the good work. Odds are you won't do this again... THAT'S why they make the fine $25. Smile and have a great day!!

I guess smoking excessive weed does impact short-term memory. I'm guessing the business card isn't yours.