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bartarded's picture

I was trying to buy a BART ticked with my credit card this morning and the machine said "BART Limit Exceeded" and then cancelled the transaction.
Had the same thing happen last week too!

I tried looking it up online but I can't find any information about it...

Anybody know what this means?

Maybe you should call BART

Maybe you should call BART customer service instead of asking random people.

bartarded's picture

Maybe you shouldn't post if

Maybe you shouldn't post if you don't have anything helpful to say, smart-ass.

Maybe I'm interested in getting an answer to the question on the internet for when OTHER people search Google with this same question in the future.

So call them and post it

So call them and post it here. Why would you want the opinions of random internet people when there is a problem with your credit card?

bartarded's picture

IT'S NOT A PROBLEM WITH MY

IT'S NOT A PROBLEM WITH MY CARD.
JESUS CHRIST.

It's an issue with the way BART limits credit card transactions.

If you have NO IDEA what I'm talking about WHY are you posting smart-assed remarks?

MalcoveMagnesia's picture

it sure sounds like a problem

it sure sounds like a problem with your card.

(just trying to add to the noise to signal ratio here)

bartarded's picture

http://www.bart.gov/tickets/s

http://www.bart.gov/tickets/sales/machines.aspx

Credit Cards: American Express, VISA, MasterCard and Discover
Purchase a minimum $1.75 to a maximum $69 in 5-cent and $1.00 increments. Credit card has a rolling 2 day limit of $69 purchase with maximum of 2 transactions per day.

I'm no more likely to know

I'm no more likely to know than I am talking about than anyone else here. However, the person who answers BART's customer service line is more likely to know than anyone here. Which is why you should try that instead of quizzing random internet people and then getting furious when they give you reasonable advice.

bartarded's picture

Reasonable advice? You're

Reasonable advice? You're just being an unhelpful idiot. Let me guess - BART employee???

bartarded's picture

http://www.bart.gov/tickets/s

http://www.bart.gov/tickets/sales/machines.aspx

Credit Cards: American Express, VISA, MasterCard and Discover
Purchase a minimum $1.75 to a maximum $69 in 5-cent and $1.00 increments. Credit card has a rolling 2 day limit of $69 purchase with maximum of 2 transactions per day.

boopiejones's picture

i am not sure if this is

i am not sure if this is still the case, but it used to also deny your card if you tried to use it more than once in the same day, regardless of the amount. so if you are making a round trip and for some reason only bought a one way ticket for the first leg, you were screwed if you didn't have cash to get back home.

TreoBART's picture

This. I used to make my

This. I used to make my tickets exact change at the kiosks with credit instead of going to the exchange window. I think I was able to get two transactions out of one card per day. It seems consistent with your comment here, you can't buy more than $69 every two days or more than 2 transactions of any size in one day.

bartarded's picture

What a DUMB system! I wonder

What a DUMB system! I wonder why they decided to do this? Just to screw over passengers I guess.

thesilentj's picture

Maybe it is a "dumb system"

Maybe it is a "dumb system" but ..Look at it this way.

Some tool has stolen YOUR cc.
They go to bart and DRAIN your account for EVERYTHING it is worth buying bart tickets.

They THEN go outside the station and sell these tickets at 1/2 of face value...or less.

You get to deal with the mess and hassle of dealing with a cc company fraud outfit.

They get food,booze and or whatever they buy with the ill gotten gains.

Or you can put up with a small pain in the ass like being denied a bart ticket because they have had the issue before and this is the way bart chose to handle the issue rather than ignore it and let the patron be damned.(I know ..weird huh ....)

Bartarded if you're so angry

Bartarded if you're so angry that you can only use your cc two times at the ticket machines then get a Clipper card. You can use your credit card to autoload it. Much more convient than running to the ticket machine every time you ride BART.

bartarded's picture

I am trying to rack up small

I am trying to rack up small CC purcahses this month so I can get bonus rewards on my card. Just pissed that BART wont let me spend my money the way I want to on their stupid system.

bartarded's picture

Well maybe BART needs to

Well maybe BART needs to require PIN numbers or something like other CC machines do??
DUMB to have the system set up where it is so easy to abuse with stolen cards!

TreoBART's picture

Debit cards use PINs, not

Debit cards use PINs, not Credit Cards.

bartarded's picture

you have to put in your zip

you have to put in your zip code and other stuff at gas stations when using a credit card

boopiejones's picture

that's a nice safeguard, but

that's a nice safeguard, but chances are that if someone stole your credit card they also have your entire wallet/purse including your driver license and zip code.

There's another good reason

There's another good reason besides theft for BART to restrict the number of small credit card transactions: credit card companies charge a per transaction fee as well as a percentage of each transaction. On small transactions these fees can be a very substantial percentage of the ticket. While having a $10 minimum on credit card transactions would also work, BART's approach of limiting you to two transactions per day is more friendly to casual riders and people who are bumping against the limits on their credit cards.

Unless things have changed in

Unless things have changed in the last few years, the agreement that vendors sign with the CC companies doesn't allow them to have a minimum charge or an extra fee. IIRC the closest a retailer could legally get to not getting robbed on small charges was to build an extra CC fee into their posted prices and then offer a cash discount.

lucifer's picture

credit card companies and the

credit card companies and the state itself have this rule, but government agencies (like BART) are exempt, like a lot of other laws/regulations/rules.

bartarded's picture

so great that our government

so great that our government makes up laws they expect other people to follow and then doesn't follow those laws themselves.

/sarcasm

donutfreak's picture

From what I was told, the

From what I was told, the credit card transaction limits were put in place after BART discovered that pickpockets and thieves would high-tail it to a BART ticket machine to use stolen credit cards for tickets before the victims had a chance to contact the credit card company and report the theft. It seems like a pretty good scam, since the machine doesn't check your ID to make sure that the person using the card is legitimate, and the crook could turn a bunch of high-value tickets into quick cash.

bartarded's picture

They should just ban people

They should just ban people from Oakland/Richmond from using BART.
They never pay for there tickets anyway.

Maybe this site should ban

Maybe this site should ban people who don't know the proper usage of there/their/they're when making douche-y remarks.

bartarded's picture

HURR DURR FUNNY GUY

HURR DURR FUNNY GUY

I agree dukespot...they're

I agree dukespot...they're just there to expose their ignorance :)

bartarded's picture

Nice alt account, bro.

Nice alt account, bro.

Do you even have a life, or

Do you even have a life, or is all your time just spent on BART RAGE? Your life seems to be a vicious cycle of you putting out negative energy and getting the same back in return, which only makes you more negative and hateful. I'm no Pollyanna, but I'm sure glad I don't live in your ugly little world. I actually pity you.

bartarded's picture

What kind of coward pulls an

What kind of coward pulls an alt account out of their asshole to comment on posts that are weeks old?

No wonder you're sick of the assholes --- You are one.