Notes From Last Week's BART to Livermore Meeting

Last Wednesday night BART held it's last public meeting, part of a series of meetings held throughout the fall of last year, gaining input on the release of it's draft environmental report for the BART to Livermore extension. Following these meetings, a final report will be released this summer. Several possible alignments were presented to the public. AC Supervisor Haggerty, BART Board member John McPartland, and BART's Malcolm Quint were all in attendance.
So, here's the rundown. As with the last meeting I was at, there were two predominant views among those who appeared at the meeting. BART should either go down the freeway toward the Altamont ending near Greenville Road, or go through downtown ending near Greenville or Vasco Road. The arguments in favor of a freeway extension mainly centered around traffic, noise pollution, and safety issues. Plus, I should point out, the freeway route is the "least" expensive of the alignments proposed. Arguments in favor of a downtown route (including yours truly), centered around access and the growing development downtown. There are multiple routes proposed for either of these options, with speakers adding one or two more suggestions that night. Almost all routes include connections with Altamont Commuter Express.
Here are some of the highlights from the speakers that night:
-A board member of Zone 7 Water Agency urged not to build a route going through the gravel yards south of the freeway due to visual and noise pollution. Many gravel pits have been turned into lakes, and later will become part of parks and recreation. Right? Who wants the sound of trains ruining their camping experience..in ten to twenty years?
-A member of the Fremont City Council strongly warned against a downtown terminus to the route, referencing his city's own experience with their station. Luckily, he mentioned, the Warm Springs station was being constructed, and would alleviate most of their congestion issues. Hmm..
-One speaker happened to be a worker from the quarry where one of the alignments is proposed to go through. He expressed deep concern primarily since the line would be built on a levee separating two of the man-made lakes on an aerial platform. Details, Details.
-A couple of speakers relayed their grievances with the cost and time frame of the project. One cited BART's inabilities to address current systematic problems and inefficiencies, it's choice of expensive broad gauge rail, and also questioned if the expansion was worth doing. Were one of you guys there!? Another speaker even referenced the speed in which the Transcontinental Railroad was built in comparison to the current project. Oh those pesky state and federal regulations that slow everything down!
-Still, there were some speakers who were worried that the extension would not fit the "character" of the city, or that it would bring certain "elements" along with it. Ah, those old evergreens.
The evening certainly turned out to be interesting and informative. I'm glad I went, and voiced my opinion as well. I look forward to seeing how this will all turn out. Thanks for reading!
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Thanks for the update, good
Thanks for the update, good to see there are people who are not only interested in BART, but willing to participate in being a voice for the riders.
thanks for the info! wish
thanks for the info! wish this had been anounced here so i could have gone.
it was:
it was: http://bartrage.com/node/2689
would have been nice if it
would have been nice if it had been closer to the date i guess. oh well, maybe next time.
Glad you found it
Glad you found it informative! I feel a little like Amy Adams from "Julie and Julia" right now: "I've got comments!". :-)
Which Fremont council member
Which Fremont council member was it? And what issues did they bring up?
Fremont's BART station is not quite near a spot that might eventually be sort of a downtown. I can't say I've ever seen much actual congestion near the Fremont BART station.
its a people per day thing,
its a people per day thing, the number of people per day in and out of fremont, will explain the situation more accurately.
there isn't going to be parking, automobiles and bart are a big magnet.
@MikeonBike, My error, he's
@MikeonBike,
My error, he's actually a former Fremont city council member, since I don't see him on the city website. I did a search and was unable to find info on the gentleman. The issues he mainly brought up regarding the Fremont BART station had to do with traffic and parking.
So putting a station downtown
So putting a station downtown is not a good idea because of traffic and lack of parking? How silly. Totally misses the whole point of transit oriented development.
As someone who doesn't have a
As someone who doesn't have a car, I'm a bit biased, and there are certainly other factors I may not have taken into account in regards to traffic congestion levels a downtown station would engender. However, I see traffic as an issue regardless of where the station is placed. Road capacity is limited, and if increased would fill up easily, and do we really want to become more auto-dependant? What effect might increased bus service or even a dedicated downtown line (similar to Walnut Creek) make to relieve congestion?
Broad gauge rail doesn't
Broad gauge rail doesn't really cost more than narrow gauge rail to lay, and it's not like they could just decide to change to narrow tomorrow without a hell of an expense to replace everything that runs on the tracks.