Submitted by bartarded on Sun, 05/23/2010 - 7:33am.
i was just thinking how i always avoid bart on the weekends because the service is so crappy. normally i would just take bart into the city but on weekends because the trains are so infrequent i just drive.
if BART's weekends ervice was not so bad i would probably ride it all week.
If you avoid BART because of an average expected additional wait of two and a half minutes, it's hard to imagine you're a daily rider, especially considering that weekend trains are generally on time, while commute trains are frequently delayed by a couple of minutes.
Assuming you arrive at an arbitrary point in time, your wait time can be modeled by a uniform distribution. Usually this is modeled by an exponential distribution, but since BART trains arrive at least in principle with fixed intervals, the uniform modeling is allowable. The expected wait time is 7.5 minutes for 15 minute headways, or 10 for 20 minute headways. No lies there.
Submitted by bartarded on Thu, 07/22/2010 - 3:20pm.
BART trains do not run at the same frequency all hours.
BART trains do not run at the same frequency all days of the week.
Certain BART lines do not run on weekends.
Submitted by dukespot on Mon, 05/24/2010 - 2:53pm.
On Sundays they run a (pathetic) skeleton service. If you have a flight out of one of the BART-serviced airports, no trains arrive before 8:30am (OAK) or 9:00am (SFO), so you'd better not book a flight that leaves before 10 or 11am. Heck, you can't even make it to many church services on that schedule. With all of the weekend events in the Bay Area, Sunday service should match Saturdays - service starting at 6am and Richmond/Fremont-SF direct trains.
Submitted by bart_rider on Tue, 06/08/2010 - 10:12pm.
It sucks that Sunday service doesn't start until 8:00 a.m.
The 15 minutes at Lafayette on Saturday really bugs me; I am driving to Orinda from Bay Point just to avoid it because BART stops for five minutes at every SINGLE station BEFORE the delay at Lafayette.
Don't you JUST HATE SITTING at 12th Street too? ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Then, when the train has to back up and pick up some dumb bitch off the tracks, it's a 45 minute delay and that's before we get to lafayette.
Why BART Police don't ride the trains, I don't know because the trains are being taken over by mental cases.
Sorry not to complain, but I use BART on weekends. I just make sure to check real time arrivals on my phone, so I'm not hanging out on the platform for a long time. Like everyone else, I wish BART ran every 5 minutes 24/7.
Submitted by BartCynic on Tue, 05/25/2010 - 2:59pm.
I voted "no" because the reason I avoid BART on the weekends is that the demographics and conduct of the ridership on the weekends is even worse than during the week. Even if BART ran every 5 minutes on the weekends, I would still avoid it.
I avoid BART on the weekend not because of the service, but the thugs to play their boom boxes (yes, old school boom boxes) without headphones and the mental who hits on every Asian female who rides in the same car with him between SF and San Bruno.
Submitted by bluehale on Thu, 05/27/2010 - 6:23am.
I'd avoiding riding BART on the weekends to the East Bay. Not only is the service crappy, I hated being forced on like cattle on both a 3 car train on the ghetto line (Richmond to Fremont) and a 10 car train heading back to San Francisco. I also was forced to endure seeing a homeless person sit across from me and a crazy person clearly off his meds acting like a deranged idiot.
i was just thinking how i
i was just thinking how i always avoid bart on the weekends because the service is so crappy. normally i would just take bart into the city but on weekends because the trains are so infrequent i just drive.
if BART's weekends ervice was not so bad i would probably ride it all week.
If you avoid BART because of
If you avoid BART because of an average expected additional wait of two and a half minutes, it's hard to imagine you're a daily rider, especially considering that weekend trains are generally on time, while commute trains are frequently delayed by a couple of minutes.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Lie_with_Statistics
Assuming you arrive at an
Assuming you arrive at an arbitrary point in time, your wait time can be modeled by a uniform distribution. Usually this is modeled by an exponential distribution, but since BART trains arrive at least in principle with fixed intervals, the uniform modeling is allowable. The expected wait time is 7.5 minutes for 15 minute headways, or 10 for 20 minute headways. No lies there.
BART trains do not run at the
BART trains do not run at the same frequency all hours.
BART trains do not run at the same frequency all days of the week.
Certain BART lines do not run on weekends.
Lies, damned lies, and statistics.
Saturday service isn't bad,
Saturday service isn't bad, but Sunday service definitely is.
On Sundays they run a
On Sundays they run a (pathetic) skeleton service. If you have a flight out of one of the BART-serviced airports, no trains arrive before 8:30am (OAK) or 9:00am (SFO), so you'd better not book a flight that leaves before 10 or 11am. Heck, you can't even make it to many church services on that schedule. With all of the weekend events in the Bay Area, Sunday service should match Saturdays - service starting at 6am and Richmond/Fremont-SF direct trains.
It sucks that Sunday service
It sucks that Sunday service doesn't start until 8:00 a.m.
The 15 minutes at Lafayette on Saturday really bugs me; I am driving to Orinda from Bay Point just to avoid it because BART stops for five minutes at every SINGLE station BEFORE the delay at Lafayette.
Don't you JUST HATE SITTING at 12th Street too? ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Then, when the train has to back up and pick up some dumb bitch off the tracks, it's a 45 minute delay and that's before we get to lafayette.
Why BART Police don't ride the trains, I don't know because the trains are being taken over by mental cases.
Sorry not to complain, but I
Sorry not to complain, but I use BART on weekends. I just make sure to check real time arrivals on my phone, so I'm not hanging out on the platform for a long time. Like everyone else, I wish BART ran every 5 minutes 24/7.
I voted "no" because the
I voted "no" because the reason I avoid BART on the weekends is that the demographics and conduct of the ridership on the weekends is even worse than during the week. Even if BART ran every 5 minutes on the weekends, I would still avoid it.
Oops, I added the traditional
Oops, I added the traditional "Don't Care" and it wiped out the votes :-/ sorry about that.
why would you even do that?
why would you even do that? why meddle?
now the poll is broken and it is not recording votes correctly.
why?????
I avoid BART on the weekend
I avoid BART on the weekend not because of the service, but the thugs to play their boom boxes (yes, old school boom boxes) without headphones and the mental who hits on every Asian female who rides in the same car with him between SF and San Bruno.
I'd avoiding riding BART on
I'd avoiding riding BART on the weekends to the East Bay. Not only is the service crappy, I hated being forced on like cattle on both a 3 car train on the ghetto line (Richmond to Fremont) and a 10 car train heading back to San Francisco. I also was forced to endure seeing a homeless person sit across from me and a crazy person clearly off his meds acting like a deranged idiot.
Most Richmond-Fremont weekend
Most Richmond-Fremont weekend trains are six cars...
Weekend service has never
Weekend service has never been an issue for me. The only difference is rather than standing, I'm able to sit down on the weekends.