24 Hour Weekend Service? Just what are you thinking...
Passengers wearing masks, drunk and every other fool out on Saturday night and BART keeps the system open 24 hours. What a receipe for disaster. This will make New Year's Eve look like a Tiny Tot Parade.
BART's response that the system needed maintenance for the few hours of closure during the *work week* doesn't hold water. The week day working slob is your meal ticket rider, not the weekend recreational/hell raiser/casual rider. I'd like to see the "train of thought" that went into this decision.
I guess it is a no win for
I guess it is a no win for BART whatever the decision, right? I think it was a no-brainer, especially if the bridge remains closed until Monday commute. Why would BART no run 24-hour trains like they did for the planned closure? So it falls on Halloween (another Hallmark holiday), big deal. Overnight service won't service all stations and won't run every 15 minutes. I don't see the problem.
Oh boo hoo, your commute will
Oh boo hoo, your commute will be a little less comfortable.
Basel saod. "The week day
Basel saod. "The week day working slob is your meal ticket rider, not the weekend recreational/hell raiser/casual rider. I'd like to see the "train of thought" that went into this decision."
Actually you have it backwards. Transit systems have huge unused capacity in the off hours. Increasing the non rush hour ridership is the lowest investment highest return. Large numbers of potential riders are unwilling to have "Cinderella Liberty" service hours when the headline act is going to play until 2 AM. So, if they can't use BART to get home, why would they use BART to access the show? You may not like the music I elect to pay to attend, but my $$ in the farebox are the same as anyone else's.
It's only lowest investment
It's only lowest investment highest return for hours when the train is already running.
Regular BART commuters hate
Regular BART commuters hate occasional riders in the same way that San Francisco residents hate bridge-and-tunnel folks.
It's irrational and stupid.
I agree that its irrational
I agree that its irrational and stupid, why do commuters feel that they are entitled to anything. Not to say that BART has done much right, but when they Bay Area needs them to pick up the slack in situations like this, they do.
I don't know. I guess because
I don't know. I guess because they use it all the time they think they should get to dictate the rules to BART or something.
i don't hate the occasional
i don't hate the occasional rider. i hate the clueless person that doesn't observe the unwritten rules. pretty much anything you do/anywhere you go has unwritten rules. if you are in a new situation, you should observe what others are doing and follow suit. stand on the right side of the escalator, walk on the left. line up with everyone else at the black floor tiles. etc. i don't hate new people that don't follow those rules. i hate everyone that doesn't follow those rules. but it seems like there is a lot more of that going on since the bridge went out of service. you can come to your own conclusion on that...
If it's an unwritten rule how
If it's an unwritten rule how are people supposed to know about it if they don't regularly use BART? I know what you mean but it can take a while to learn all those rules.
Maybe they need signs about the escalators or something. I have been annoyed with people standing on the left every single day since the bridge broke.
if you are new to something,
if you are new to something, you observe what others are doing and then do the same. when i was new to bart (about 5 years ago), i did just that - watched others. if you are on the left of an escalator, it is pretty easy to see a huge line of standers on the right, ZERO people in front of you, and a whole line of pissed off people behind you. it doesn't take a pamphlet written in 14 languages to hammer home what the unspoken rule is in that scenario.
likewise, when you see two relatively orderly lines at every single set of black tiles, that should tell you something about where to wait for the next train...
and some of it is just common sense: for example, doorways were invented for entering and exiting, not for standing. it has been like that since the dawn of time, and it is true whether that door leads into a home, restaurant, office, car, train, etc.
Regulars stand in front of
Regulars stand in front of the doors all the time.
I always have a hard time getting on at Ashby because there are people standing right in front of the doors inside who want to be the first ones off at the transfer stop at MacArthur.
Ah but that requires you to
Ah but that requires you to think about someone OTHER THAN YOURSELF.
You're asking way too much Boopie, shame on you.
I don't hate occasional
I don't hate occasional riders, I hate self centered inconsiderate riders who make my train smell for weeks after they decide to pound 15 red bull and vodka cocktails and puke all over the floor.
Too bad the floors are
Too bad the floors are carpet.
I doubt the smell would be so bad if they were not so absorbent.
I agree. Infact I would
I agree. Infact I would encourage all to use public transit as much as possible. Just follow the rules and everybody is happy.
There are plenty of night
There are plenty of night workers as well which BART actively discriminates against by providing too small trains and reducing our service.
They cut service and CUT the remaining trains which are running 20 minutes or 25 plus minutes apart now.
But I've paid taxes for 35 plus years, I expect ENOUGH friggin service and not a fight when I need to get on a train at midnight because BART rather provide for drunks and homeless than passengers who ride BART to work everyday just like day commuters.