When the existing 669 BART cars are scrapped when the next gen cars come in, what should happen to the scrapped cars?
Send them to a watery grave like NYC's decommissioned cars
0% (0 votes)
Melt down the aluminum car body and structure (plus the fiberglass ends) for recycling
32% (6 votes)
Preserve one of each type of old cars in a transit museum
58% (11 votes)
Don't Know/Don't Care/Rather Not Say
11% (2 votes)
Total votes: 19
They should be converted into
They should be converted into condos.
Am I really the only one who
Am I really the only one who would like to see a BART transit museum?
Nope, you're not the only
Nope, you're not the only one. I love museums.
Ditto--that would be fun! It
Ditto--that would be fun! It would be particularly neat if it was based at one of the yards and included a "behind the scenes" tour. My only hope would be that it wasn't completely dumbed-down to a third-grade (i.e. school field trip) level like so many of the science/technical museums out there. When I was in England a few years back, I got to take a tour of a couple of the control rooms for the London Underground (one which was one of the oldest in the system, and one which was one of the newest). One of the coolest things I've ever done.
No, Shrapnel, you're not
No, Shrapnel, you're not alone! I am a hardcore railroad preservationist. I heard that an old MUNI LRV was sold to Manchester, UK for about $500. If that's how much they can get for them, I wonder how much they want for the old car sitting by the US Mint. See, that's how much of a preservationist I am! And yes, I would like to see old BART cars preserved perhaps at the Western Railway Museum in Rio Vista, CA or the California State Railroad Museum in Sacramento.
Homeless/hobo shelter. Park
Homeless/hobo shelter. Park them next to the public toilets.
Are you talking about the
Are you talking about the Muni cars or the BART cars?
(I'm assuming MUNI)
None of the above. The
None of the above. The rebuilt (A and B cars) should be kept and run as complete trains - primarily the commute trains. BART should buy the trailer park next to Colma station - it's only got a dozen trailers left. And use it for storage tracks for midday parking of these trains. With AATC, BART will be able to run (every 15 minutes) Three Pittsburg trains, Two Dublin (or one just to Bayfair) trains, one Richmond and one Fremont. Plus two extra Richmond trains every hour. That's thirty trains an hour - 300 cars - or about 200,000 riders just during the commute. Yeah, not enough doors, but if the seating in the middle part was subway style - longitudinal bench - they would still load and unload quickly. BART would need someplace to park them overnight and weekends - longer tail tracks at Pittsburg and Dublin, another couple of storage tracks at Richmond and Concord yards and C75.
The newer C2 cars (80 of them) could be rebuilt as B cars (new controls are different) and three doors. The old C cars - 150 of them - could be rebuilt as new cab cars, kept as two doors but longitudinal seating. Extra cab cars mean flexibility for short trains. No more 4 car trains - 6 or 7 cars would be good. The last rebuild cost 750 k a car, while new cars are estimated at 3 million. Even with inflation, rebuilds are a bargain.
> Homeless/hobo shelter. Park
> Homeless/hobo shelter. Park them next to the public toilets.
no, no, make them public toilets for the homeless.
it will involve zero modification as the homeless already identify BART cars as such.