Submitted by transit troublemaker on Tue, 07/22/2008 - 10:23am.
Three door sets per side--offset so as to create more maneuvering space. No carpet. more "jump" seats adjacent the doors as on some current fleet.
route/destination signage inside and out as well as automated announcement system.
Submitted by silver worm on Tue, 07/22/2008 - 10:41am.
If a 3/2 stagger means three doors on one side and two on the other, that will be fun to see. It will make the fight for boarding at the yellow line interesting.
"Will I get a three door train car here or a two door?" Kind of like gambling on where the doors will be. Similar to MUNI.
Submitted by arne1965 on Tue, 07/22/2008 - 11:59am.
My guess is that they will be somewhat like the new PATH cars in New Jersey - three doors, but staggered, so that they don't line up, but the right side is four feet farther back than the other. The doors will probably line up with the current black squares (35 feet apart), and the third door will be in the middle of the other two. Seating will be "more BART", not PATH's subway style seating.
The new cars won't be compatible with the old, button style coupler, so, most likely they will appear first on the C line, as complete trains. They will belong to the new San Jose shops, and, probably, Concord yard will own a few. Each car type requires special equipment (for example, all A cars now belong to Richmond), so only one or two yards will service them.
I would imagine the current fleet of C-cars would be rebuilt, probably all as B-cars? once all of the new cars arrive.
Three door sets per
Three door sets per side--offset so as to create more maneuvering space. No carpet. more "jump" seats adjacent the doors as on some current fleet.
route/destination signage inside and out as well as automated announcement system.
Three door staggered,
Three door staggered, interesting. That might be difficult to implement, but 3 / 2 stagger might work.
+1 no carpeting.
+1 jump seats.
If a 3/2 stagger means three
If a 3/2 stagger means three doors on one side and two on the other, that will be fun to see. It will make the fight for boarding at the yellow line interesting.
"Will I get a three door train car here or a two door?" Kind of like gambling on where the doors will be. Similar to MUNI.
There are so many line
There are so many line jumpers, does it really matter? ;) You're right shiatty idea.
How about less seats and wider doors? We could really pack 'em in.
My guess is that they will be
My guess is that they will be somewhat like the new PATH cars in New Jersey - three doors, but staggered, so that they don't line up, but the right side is four feet farther back than the other. The doors will probably line up with the current black squares (35 feet apart), and the third door will be in the middle of the other two. Seating will be "more BART", not PATH's subway style seating.
The new cars won't be compatible with the old, button style coupler, so, most likely they will appear first on the C line, as complete trains. They will belong to the new San Jose shops, and, probably, Concord yard will own a few. Each car type requires special equipment (for example, all A cars now belong to Richmond), so only one or two yards will service them.
I would imagine the current fleet of C-cars would be rebuilt, probably all as B-cars? once all of the new cars arrive.
by "the existing 669" car
by "the existing 669" car fleet i read that to mean that there are 669 cars in barts current fleet. is that correct?
That is correct. I read about
That is correct.
I read about it on WikiPedia.