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PollWhich BART line do you ride the most?
Red - Richmond
13%
Orange - Fremont/Richmond
21%
Yellow - Pittsburg/Bay Point
46%
Green - Fremont/Daly City
8%
Blue - Dublin/Pleasanton
8%
Lines to Millbrae
4%
Total votes: 24
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Refurbished BART car - like new!I was on a newly refurbished car last week - what a pleasure. New floor, new seat cushions, with good support, new fabric on the seats. It even smelled good. "Proudly maintined by the Hayward rail yard." I guess it's sad that a new, clean car should make such an impression, but I'm grateful nonetheless. |
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I like the mid-car stickers
I like the mid-car stickers designating the rolling stock's "home." Promotes a sense of pride for the people at the respective shops. The Colma yard with the Golden Gate Bridge, an airplane and BART train is pretty good - instant recognition it's a westbay unit.
I was on one of the newly
I was on one of the newly refurbished cars yesterday, and was pissed to see soda stains and food on the floor. When is Bart's police dept. going to REALLY enforce their No Eating, No Drinking policy ?
When you figure out a way for
When you figure out a way for BPD to be EVERYWHERE at once and to be able to catch EVERYONE that is breaking laws, let them know. I'm sure they would love to hear your solution.
Well, have you been on a
Well, have you been on a train where two Bart cops walk through while people are eating and drinking and they don't do a thing about it ? I HAVE !!!!
I'd love to hear his
I'd love to hear his solution, too, Op9.
Regarding police officers passing people eating and drinking, has it occurred to you that they might be responding to a call with, oh I don't know, a little bit higher priority than someone taking a sip of some good ole' Sunny D?
All I'm going to say is that
All I'm going to say is that if customer is eating on the platform with officers nearby in visual contact, I have seen nothing happen. Perhaps its not a priority until the eater actually gets on a train.
A simple "you better put your
A simple "you better put your drink away or I will cite you" might have worked. At least it shows that BPD does pay attention to the little details.
Dude the cops can't be
Dude the cops can't be everywhere at once?! Chill out.
They are every time I light
They are every time I light my crack pipe!! they are *EVERYWHERE*, behind every corner, in plain cloths on every car!!
Well, not many want to smell
Well, not many want to smell crack.
I think I'd like to give my
I think I'd like to give my two cents regarding eating on BART. However I might hear it from Shrapnel later.
I have always lived by the "Snack or Mack" rule. If I see you take a bite of a candy bar and then wrap it up when you see me, no harm no foul. But if you are taking the pickles out of your burger and sticking them on the train windows... "Press hard there's three copies".
Furthermore, when I ask you to wrap your sandwich up until you exit the BART system, you sigh and have to think about it... "My name and badge number are on the bottom of the citation and yes I will see you in court too! I like to get there early."
I have found out that most BART riders like the softer approach BART Police has for the "little stuff" and really don't want us to give everyone a ticket for every violation. However, the one time you take the bite of the candy bar, Officer Idontgivebreaks might be watching you and you'll get a ticket. Unfortunately there are a couple of officers out there like that.
Let me know if I should change my way of thinking. I could easily write 25 citations a day for eating. The feedback is great here!
I would! Im tired of people
I would! Im tired of people eating on bart. u never know if u do a 10-29 u might get a good hit? lol
YES!!!!!!! Please DO! Sure
YES!!!!!!! Please DO! Sure they may "snack and mack" but what about when they accidentally spill or drip crumbs and/or drinks all over the floors and cushions? I bet if all BPD officers wrote citations for the "little stuff", it would finally register in these idiots that think they can eat and drink on BART and totally disregard the rules. And maybe maintenance crews won't have to clean and switch out seats as much because of all the stains. Another reason why BART should switch to plastic/vinyl, but whatever.
Ugh. There was a family
Ugh. There was a family consisting of a "BART dad of the year" candidate and his 2 daughters on an evening train I was on recently. He was letting them munch away on crackers leaving a pile of crumbs all over the seats and drinking out of bottles of water in one of the quads with the big "no eating or drinking" signs. Oh well. Yeah yeah.. coulda shoulda called the TO, but it was a crowded car, no where near the intercom, and I just wanted to be beamed home :)
I also hope they dump like 20 gallons of "ScotchGard(tm)" on each of the seats in the refurbed cars. I had the pleasure of riding on a recently redone one .. so much more pleasant.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE start
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE start writing citations for eating. If you start making people live by the little rules, eventually they will live by the big rules. If they know they are going to get cited for eating on BART, they sure has heck aren't going to try and jump the gate or tag up the cars.
Oh man, I'm gonna get a
Oh man, I'm gonna get a ticket for taking a swig out of my water bottle now. Damn.
I was once waiting inside the
I was once waiting inside the gate (dealing with a ticket issue) wanting wanting to take a swig out of my water bottle with three Bart Police Officers standing near by, So I just asked for permission.
The officer I asked looked at me really strangely, I then pointed out that it would be foolish for me to do so in front of three Officers who were standing under the no eating/drinking sign. He then said yes.
A minute later he looked backed at me and thanked me for asking....
God forbid anyone has to do
God forbid anyone has to do without something they want NOW NOW NOW in this country. I mean, what would happen if you weren't able to take a swig of water on your morning commute (even if it was for the good of everyone else and the mode of transportation you have paid to ride). I am sorry I ever thought of of putting you out by not letting you have your precious water, you might collapse into a twitching heap from dehydration.
Clearly you have never rode
Clearly you have never rode your bike on a warmer day then expected or ever continued to sweat after you stopped.
And yes you can risk dehydration and if you ignore this you can eventually collapse.
How far are you riding your
How far are you riding your bike to BART? From Sac? You can go without water for 30 minutes... the Bay Area isn't exactly the Sahara. But then, that would put you out and we can't have that. You are much more important then everyone else riding bart... sorry.
It was a freakin' joke Mr.
It was a freakin' joke Mr. Notolerance. Besides, if I spilled any it might actually help clean some of the filth.
What is your take on people boarding the cars when it is raining? Shake your coat or umbrella and some, wait for it, water falls on a seat or the floor? Oh the horror! Not water! Nasty water! We can't have that. This is too much! Shameful, just shameful.
Unfortunately, this is a
Unfortunately, this is a 'give an inch, take a mile' situation. While I have no doubt that some individuals, perhaps yourself included, could drink out of a bottle without spilling, the stains on the BART cars prove that many people cannot. Once a rule is not enforced strictly and in its entirety, people take advantage. While your point about boarding the trains wet vs. getting the train wet with a water bottle is completely fair, it is the flaunting of the rules by consuming beverages/food that can't be tolerated.
Sorry if I have been a bit rude, but I (and hopefully you) am sick and tired on paying a good chunk of my paycheck to ride filthy cars that are always late/delayed, hot and crowded. The easiest one of those to change as a rider is to show mutual respect to other riders by waiting to eat and drink until after you are out of the BART station.
I find it highly unlikely the
I find it highly unlikely the food/drink rules will be enforced to the point that all riders will think twice before their transgression. I know that sometimes I feel a bit guilty when I take a drink out of my water bottle.
I do agree with your mutual respect comment. We need more personal responsibility and respect in the world. That would go a long way in solving a whole lot of problems.
BTW, as someone pointed out to me once, it is "flouting of the rules." Flaunting would be "Hey look at my fancy bling bling rules." :)
I see both sides here. I
I see both sides here. I completely understand about the filth, believe me. I hate it when I see people eating Big Macs, cookies, etc. on the train. But here's another point of view: Once a month I take BART into SF to have my monthly Tysabri infusion because of my MS. I have to pre-medicate with Ativan to offset any adverse side effects. To do this, I must take a sip of water with the med while on the train. You might find sips of water hard to enfore with diabetics or others with medical conditions who must stick to a tight time line when taking meds.
I seem to recall bart police
I seem to recall bart police on this site saying they will never ticket someone for sipping water for exactly the reason you point out - it might be a medical issue. But there are no medical issues I know of that require someone to down panda express and a liter of coke every half hour.
I absolutely agree with you.
I absolutely agree with you. It pisses me off to see people do that, as well as other things like feet on the seats, newspapers on the floor...the list goes on. A lot of people out there are self-absorbed pigs.
imeanyoufeelme : Are you
imeanyoufeelme : Are you actually ripping after I had the decency to even ask permission from a BART PD officer?
Myself, I like and agree with
Myself, I like and agree with your methodology.
If I was a TO I would let a
If I was a TO I would let a passenger drink out of a water bottle with a cap or lid. I would let that slide. Anything else, either it gets off the train or you do. I don't care if that Starbucks cost you $4.50. Dump it in the garbage now or ill sic BART PD on you. LOL.
So I guess bringing a 5
So I guess bringing a 5 gallon pail on board and scooping it out with your hands would not be approved.
Nope probably not. But I am
Nope probably not. But I am sure someone has tried it on bart at least once.